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    Tuesday, February 27, 2007

    American Idol- inappropriate dedications night

    No one should ever dedicate the song "Let's get it on" to their mother- take note Jared. That was the worst of the dedications, although not a bad performance. Next up would be Phil singing "Missing You", to the Guys in his unit.

    The bottem three for the week were Sanjaya with "Steppin'Out", Nick with "fever" which I think he dedicated to his mother or Grandmother, and Brandon singing "Time after Time."

    I think that Sanjaya will go home. It is his second week in the bottom three and he wasn't strong enough to win strong support. He may get saved by the little girl vote- remember how Kevin survived for several weeks.

    It should be one of these three. We shall see.

    Monday, February 26, 2007

    Music Shuffle

    "The Devil Game" by Kansas
    "The River of Dreams" by Billy Joel
    "Honesty" by Billy Joel
    "Bandstand Boogie" by Barry Manilow
    "Sweet Caroline" by Neil Diamond
    "Midnight Dream" by Neil Diamond
    "Never Going Back Again" by Fleetwood Mac
    "Born in the USA" by Bruce Springsteen
    "Hell is For Children" by Pat Benetar
    "The Disco Strangler" by The Eagles

    Moron of the Week

    This moron gets his own link http://find.msn.com/search.aspx?q=Larry+Seidlin&c=0226+Larry+Seidlin&form=MSNHM3. Moron? how better to describe this self-involved jerk (Larry Seidlin) who rallied the media interest in a sad and tragic case into a vehicle to further his own TV ambitions ala "Judge Judy."

    How would "Judge Judy" have ruled in the case of Anna Nicle Smith?

    How would the outcome have been if the judge actually hearing the case hadn't been motivated by his own interests? Word in the news today is that he hase been hired by CBS news as there morning court commentator.

    I wonder if this week's "Moron of the Week" will deliver every court commentary with the same blubbering appeal that he used to rule in the custody case ragarding the remains of Anna Nicole Smith.

    Sunday, February 25, 2007

    And the Oscar goes to....

    ...An Inconvenient Truth. Yippee! I wonder what those on the right who are not buying this will say now? What's even better than seeing Al Gore win this is to see what ole Hannity will have to say about it. This will be fun!

    Edwards' Campaign Rides On Iowa

    This was in the Des Moines Sunday paper today. Sounds like Edwards is still in the race, at least he is in Iowa. But it sounds as if Edwards will be questionable if he doesn't win Iowa.

    You know, we are talking about this WAY too early. Nationally I wonder if this will be like a horse race in the stretch. The top two are running so hard and so fast that they end up dying in the stretch and then who wins? The one who was running third!

    Friday, February 23, 2007

    Money is the issue!!!

    Tom Vilsack- gone before we ever got a chance to know him. Makes me wonder if we are doing something wrong in the way we do this.

    Thursday, February 22, 2007

    Okay so here's the score so far...

    In the first round of cuts there were no real surprises except possibly for the one's who managed to survive.

    I am amazed that Sundance survived. The on-line polls had him dead last, right where he deserved to be. I am not surprised that Paul went home. I guess he will take his bare feet home where he'll 'never wanna dance again.'

    Amy was one of my bottom four as well- I said, "she's right, she can't make me love her." I am not so sad that she won't be able to try.

    I have a personal dislike developing for Sundance and for Antonella. Sundance because no person should get more than 5 'one more chances' and I just don't like Antonella's attitude.
    Unfortunately, America will have to endure another week from these two.

    While I am waiting for the second round of cuts in this show I want to take the opportunity to express my opinion that the contentious banter between Ryan and Simon will get old very quickly.

    The second cut for the ladies was not surprising either- Nicole is going home, also one of my bottom four. I think antonella and Leslie are in real trouble next week. the other eight were so far supperior. That last cut to the final six ladies is going to hurt.

    The last cut is a surprise for me. Rudy was better in my opinion than the judges gave him credit for. It was unfortunate that he was the first performer because it is hard to hold people's memory. I think he should have survived over Sundance or Sanjaya. Those two will need to really step up for next week if they expect to be around past next week.

    Guys go first again next week.

    Wednesday, February 21, 2007

    American Idol- The Ladies

    Okay, let's start with the obvious. The girls, while weak on personality, are better singers than the guys this year. There were eight who were very strongn and four in my mind are at risk for going home.

    Amy was just too boring for me and she was right- that she can't make me love her. Leslie feels like a natural woman but sounded like she was trying to take a dump. Nicole and Alaina round out the bottom four in my mind, although anyone who wanted to replace any of these with Antonette would not get an argument from me.

    If I had to pick three worst I would go with- and again, I am not as certain as I was with the guys, I would choose Alaina, Nicole and Leslie. If I were to personally choose two to go home they would be Alaina for sure and Leslie would be my second choice.

    So, my picks for the four to go home would be Alaina and Leslie, who both apparently suffered from constipation, and Sundance and Paul for the guys. Popular opinion seems to favor giving Paul another chance and dumping Sanjaya, but we shall see.

    These "Dear Jon" letters are almost weekly---

    Dear Jon,

    If you're confused about all the debate over Iraq, you're not alone.
    People are wondering why political posturing in Washington continues as we get drawn deeper and deeper in Iraq. I hear it everywhere I go.
    The House of Representatives took action last week on a "non-binding" resolution. In the Senate, the Republican minority has managed to prevent any vote at all. People perceive that the most important issue of our day has become captive to sound bites and cable news chatter.
    You deserve better. You should demand it.
    I was opposed to this war from the beginning because, in part, I believed it would lead to the devastating, open-ended occupation in which we find ourselves mired today.
    I've introduced legislation that would bring this tragic chapter in our history to a close.
    It's called the Iraq War De-Escalation Act. It makes the U.S. policy on Iraq crystal clear. It stops the escalation now and begins a redeployment to bring U.S. combat forces out of Iraq by March 31, 2008.
    If you want to cut through the political games and support a clear policy that will get us out of Iraq, sign on to support it now and spread the word:
    http://action.barackobama.com/iraq
    This campaign is about the hopes and dreams of people like you. And the cost of the continued occupation of Iraq stands in the way of meeting the many challenges we face.
    We can't change America until we change direction in Iraq.
    We can't be naive. It won't happen today. It won't happen tomorrow.
    But this campaign offers the opportunity for people like you to organize in your own community. Together we can build the critical mass to affect that change.
    To that end, we're going to keep the steady count of Americans supporting de-escalation on the front page of our web site.
    Anyone who visits will see the number, learn about the bill, express their support and spread the word.
    Please support the Iraq War De-Escalation Act now:
    http://action.barackobama.com/iraq
    This war happened because too many people got caught up in the same spin cycle in Washington. Now it's time to end this war and transform the political culture that allowed it.
    It's not enough for an opinion poll to show that a majority of Americans want to end this war.
    We've got to organize and mobilize that majority.
    And that's exactly what we're going to do.
    Thank you, Barack Obama

    Be sure to check out his web site. Barack is on the move. Bill Maher was on the tonight show last night and described the uphill battle for Barack in this way: "Hillary is a very strong front-runner, he lacks funds and it is nearly impossible to mount a national campaign when your name appears on the 'no-fly' list.

    It is too early for me to make a prediction, let alone decide who to back, but I am very glad for the diverse opinions being offered.

    Tuesday, February 20, 2007

    American Idol Fans--

    My pick of the bottom Three for the Men in week One are:
    Sundance, Paul and Sanjaya. I would send home Sundance and Paul. What are your thoughts?

    Monday, February 19, 2007

    Music Shuffle-

    "Continental Drift" - Yadiki Beat
    "We Belong"- Pat Benetar
    "Glory Road" Neil Diamond
    "For Lovin' Me" -Gordon Lightfoot
    "Freedon Medley"- Peter, Paul and Mary
    "Yesterday's Songs"- Neil Diamond
    "El Condor Pasa"- Simon and Garfunkel
    "Katmandu"- Cat Stevens
    "Somewhere Down Down the Road"- Barry Manilow
    "Addams Family Theme" vocal version

    Moron of the week!!

    Okay, its not really fair because, as far as we know, he hasn't done anything moronic this past week- at least nothing out of the ordinary. However, it is President's day and he is arguably one of the biggest morons to hold the office in the modern era. Therefore, GW Bush is the moron of the week ending February 17, 2007.

    Presidents Day-

    Go out and buy something.

    Thursday, February 15, 2007

    This was buried in comments but deserves a post all its own!!

    Check out this story at http://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070215/OPINION/702150303/-1/OPINION02

    A Letter from Presidential Candidate Bill Richardson

    Dear Friend,
    The President's saber-rattling strategy towards Iran needs to stop now. Mr. Bush has no authority to attack Iran and the American people won't stand for another unwarranted and unwanted war. This is a time for alliance-building, direct engagement, and tough face-to-face negotiations—not chest-beating and dangerous brinksmanship.

    Today, we need to send a clear message to the White House and Congress: We want diplomacy in Iran, not attacks.

    The worst possible mistake for the US and the world would be to take military action in Iran before exhausting all diplomatic avenues. Iran may be moving forward with plans to build nuclear weapons, but they are years away from accomplishing that goal. There is no immediate danger. Yet, rather than engaging the Iranians directly about their nuclear program, Mr. Bush refuses to talk and instead makes threats. He moves ships to the region and claims, without any convincing evidence, that Iran is helping Iraqi insurgents. This is not a strategy for peace, it is a strategy for war—a war which has not been authorized by Congress, and which would be a disaster for the region, for the United States, and for the world.
    After three decades in public service, as a Congressman, UN Ambassador, Energy Secretary, Governor and diplomatic envoy, I know what works: tough, credible and direct negotiations with adversaries, backed by strong international alliances. But by alienating our allies, over-extending our military, making idle threats, and antagonizing just about everyone, the Bush administration has undermined our diplomatic leverage.
    The recent agreement with North Korea over its nuclear program shows that direct diplomacy can work, even with the most unsavory of regimes. It is unfortunate that it took the Bush administration six years to try diplomacy. Had we engaged the North Koreans earlier, instead of calling them "evil" and talking about "regime change," we might have prevented them from going nuclear in the first place.
    Iran's nuclear program may be a threat to peace, but it also is an opportunity to start rebuilding American credibility and leadership, which have been so weakened by six years of incompetence.
    Sign the petition now demanding diplomacy, not attacks. This administration's strategy of isolating and provoking Iran must end.

    I believe that now is the time to act deliberatively and thoughtfully. Now is the time for real diplomacy - not more irresponsible threats and a stubborn refusal to talk.
    Thank you for joining me,

    Governor Bill Richardson

    ROCK THE WORLD!!! JULY 7, 2007

    http://liveearth.msn.com/

    Al Gore's next Carreer.

    Wednesday, February 14, 2007

    Tom Vilsack

    Yes, I know he's not any where near being a front runner but he still deserves at least a look and listen too. Tom Vilsack is going to be on Jay Leno tomorrow night, February 15th. I'm sure I had nothing to do with his appearance but I will have to confess that after I saw John Edwards on the Tonight Show I emailed them and suggested they be fair to all of the candidates and invite each of them on the show. I also said that since Vilsack was the first to get into the race on either side they should start with him.

    If you get a chance you should watch or at the minimum record him on your DVR.

    "Hi, I'm Al Franken and I am Running for US Senate"...

    Finally...

    See video of Al's announcement here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yh8LfGIM62M&eurl=

    MINNEAPOLIS — Comedian Al Franken said Wednesday he will run for U.S. Senate in 2008, confirming his long-suspected plans to seek the Democratic nomination to challenge Republican Sen. Norm Coleman.
    Franken's announcement came on the final day of his radio show on Air America. The former "Saturday Night Live" performer's celebrity instantly makes him a heavyweight contender and brings national attention to the Minnesota race.
    "Minnesotans have a right to be skeptical about whether I'm ready for this challenge, and to wonder how seriously I would take the responsibility that I'm asking you to give me," Franken said in a video clip posted on his Web site.
    "I want you to know: nothing means more to me than making government work better for the working families of this state, and over the next 20 months I look forward to proving to you that I take these issues seriously," Franken said in a transcript of the clip.
    Though Franken has a well-known name and is likely to be well-funded, he's expected to be challenged by several other Democrats, including wealthy trial attorney Mike Ciresi.
    Franken, 55, was born in New York City but grew up in the Minneapolis suburb of St. Louis Park. He graduated from Harvard University in 1973, and in 1975 he and writing partner Tom Davis joined the writing staff of "Saturday Night Live" during its first season. They soon started appearing in sketches, and Franken remained a fixture on the show well into the 1990s.

    In 1996 Franken took his career in a political direction when he wrote "Rush Limbaugh Is A Big Fat Idiot and Other Observations," a broadside against the conservative radio host and other figures on the right. He's since published several other books critical of Republicans and the conservative establishment.
    As early as 2003, Franken said he was considering a run for the Minnesota U.S. Senate seat previously held by his friend, the late Democratic Sen. Paul Wellstone.
    In 2004 Franken joined the upstart liberal radio network Air America as its biggest-name host. He soon got more directly involved in politics, forming a political action committee that raised more than $1 million for Democratic candidates in the last election cycle.
    In 2005, Franken and his wife, Franni, moved back to the Twin Cities, which was widely interpreted as laying the groundwork for a campaign. He announced a few weeks ago that Wednesday would be his last day on Air America, but continued to play coy about his aspirations while privately telling prominent DFLers about his plans to run.
    Franken is stringing out his announcement over two days _ Wednesday's announcement, and a scheduled first public appearance as a candidate Thursday morning at a clinic in south Minneapolis.
    In his Web site message, Franken acknowledges he's not a "typical politician." But he stresses his Minnesota roots, talking about his father's decision to open a quilting factory in Albert Lea that failed after two years, prompting the family's move to the Twin Cities.
    "I grew up in a hard-working middle class family just like many of yours. And as a middle-class kid growing up in Minnesota back then, I felt like the luckiest kid in the world. And I was."
    Franken's celebrity is likely to give him an edge over other Democrats in getting attention, but is no guarantee he'll get past the primary. Besides Ciresi, other names mentioned as potential candidates include state senators Tarryl Clark, Mee Moua and Tom Bakk, and state Rep. Joe Atkins.
    Franken's candidacy will also test whether Minnesotans are in the mood for another celebrity-cum-politician, after the 1999-2003 governship of former pro wrestler Jesse Ventura. Ventura's fame and occasionally outrageous behavior regularly brought national attention to the state but after a while wore on the patience of many Minnesotans.
    Coleman defeated former Vice President Walter Mondale in 2002 just a few weeks after the plane crash that killed the incumbent Wellstone.
    Coleman is viewed as vulnerable after several years of Democratic resurgence in Minnesota and the continued unpopularity of his fellow Republican President Bush, but his proven skills as a campaigner and adept fundraiser make him a formidable opponent.
    Franken has had little good to say about his potential opponent. In his latest book, "The Truth (with jokes)," he criticized Coleman in not-so-flattering terms for his former chairmanship of the Senate's Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations.
    "The subcommittee's chairman, Minnesota Republican Norman Coleman, is one of the administration's leading butt boys,"

    Check out his new website: http://www.alfranken.com/

    This is a guy who could rightly claim the "Wellstone" mantle. Let's keep watching.

    Tuesday, February 13, 2007

    Sunday, February 11, 2007

    Barak Enters the Race

    It really seems like it's WAY too early for all of this political stuff...the Iowa caucuses are a year away and we here in Iowa are already seeing the candidates. Compared to the last election, it's about 2-3 months earlier. I remember seeing John Edwards sometime in April-May 2003 which then seemed early. By starting this early I really believe that the 2, maybe 3 frontrunners are going to push all the others out of the race. The money will become a big issue as far as who's in the race in the fall and who's not. I don't like that because it will not give the others a chance to voice their views and may even push them out of the debates, especially the early debates. I think I know who I like and I'm sure I have it narrowed down but as a voter I want to hear more than one or two views on such important topics as Iraq and health care.

    What do you think?? Is it way too early for all of this? Are all of us going to get totally burned out on the politicians and politics by the time you're ready to cast a vote??

    Moron of the Week.

    I know I will get flack for saying this but the Moron of the week for this week will never get another opportunity.

    This Moron was widely popular for being a no-talent who made money through no special skill.
    She had an admittedly rough time of it in the past year and seemed largely incapable of moving beyond her use of drugs and her high opinion of herself.

    Therefore, Anna Nicole Smith, may she rest in peace, is this week's Moron of the Week.

    Friday, February 09, 2007

    I am looking for nominations for Moron of the Week

    Please comment with suggestions and reasons for their "moron"ness.

    Random Music Shuffle

    “Deportee” by Peter, Paul and Mary
    “Lost Boys and Golden Girls” by Meatloaf
    “Bicycle Race” by Queen
    “One Day More” Les Miserables London Cast
    “Stand” by REM
    “The House you Live In” by Gordon Lightfoot
    “I Am I Said” from HAN by Neil Diamond
    “It’s a Miracle” by Barry Manilow
    “Dust in The Wind” by Kansas
    “The Marvelous Toy” by Peter, Paul and Mary

    Wednesday, February 07, 2007

    This is an informative site for all things political

    This will be a great site for checking out basic positions of candidates as they declare for presidency or any other office nationwide.

    This is the list so far: (according to ABC News)

    And to think the primaries don't even start up in full swing for a year.

    Democrats who are running:
    New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton
    Connecticut Sen. Chris Dodd
    Former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards
    Former Alaska Sen. Mike Gravel
    Ohio Rep. Dennis Kucinich
    Illinois Sen. Barack Obama
    Gov. Bill Richardson of New Mexico
    Former Iowa Gov. Tom Vilsack
    Delaware Sen. Joe Biden (has said he is running, but has not yet filed paperwork with the Federal Election Commission)
    Potential Democratic candidates:
    Retired Gen. Wesley Clark
    Former Vice President Al Gore

    Republicans who are running:
    Kansas Sen. Sam Brownback
    Former Virginia Gov. Jim Gilmore
    Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani
    California Rep. Duncan Hunter
    Arizona Sen. John McCain
    Texas Rep. Ron Paul
    Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney
    Colorado Rep. Tom Tancredo
    Former Wisconsin Gov. Tommy Thompson
    Potential Republican candidates:
    New York Mayor Mike Bloomberg (also a potential independent candidate)
    Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich
    Nebraska Sen. Chuck Hagel
    Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee
    Former New York Gov. George Pataki


    Most of the available web sites will be listed to the left (of course) on this page.

    This guy is worth watching.

    http://richardsonforpresident.com

    The last six years are not a fair indication of how successful former Governors can be as President. Add to that Bill Richardson's depth of experience and I believe he brings an unique mix to the campaign. Check out his website.

    Monday, February 05, 2007

    John Edwards and the others

    I worked for the John Edwards campaign in 2004 and I'm getting ready to sign up again. I was first attracted to him not by his looks (although he is easy to look at) but by his message of hope. When I saw him in Des Moines on Dec 28th his message was - we are in this together and if we want to make this country a better place for our children and grandchildren we have to work at it and we will have to sacrifice. He speaks of how it's going to be hard and if we as a country are not willing to work hard and fight for what we believe in we will never get out of this mess we're in. He talks of how we need to be respected in the world again and how it's going to take someone who is willing to stand up and say things that may not be popular but has to be said. In spite of his personal wealth I truly believe he is for the underdog and for those who struggle every day. To say it as plain as I can - I truly believe that his heart is in the right place.

    In saying that I support John Edwards does not mean I do not support Hillary, Obama or even Tom Vilsak. Yes, Tom Vilsak, the ex-governor of my great state, Iowa. We are SO early in the process that I truly feel that anything can happen. Sure, Hillary is leading now with Obama and Edwards back in the pack. And maybe that's how it will stay but...maybe it won't.

    I like Hillary and I believe she would make a great President but you have to admit she is much more of a moderate than the others and add to that she has what some would say, "some baggage." I think she's strong enough to stand up to what anyone wants to dish out at her but there are some on the left who will back away from her because of her moderate views.

    Obama. I could see this coming when he gave the speech at the Democratic convention in 2004. I told my husband that night that he willl be President some day. But in saying that I'm not sure if this is the time. Sure, he's in the "rock star" status now but when it comes down to getting votes I believe some would hesitate to vote for him. Not because of his skin color but because he lacks experience. His no vote for the war will help but not enough to get him in the lead.

    John Edwards' stand on Iraq is already separating him from the others. He's not afraid to say it's time to pull out of Iraq. No cap on troups, no slow withdrawal. Get out of there in a short period of time. He's also saying he would vote no to the funding. There are a lot of Democrats and Rebublicans who feel as he does so if it comes down to voting for Hillary, Obama or Edwards, he would get the vote. His big drawback would be his chance of winning against the Republican's strongest candidate. He is taking an early stand on health care, which in Iowa and maybe around the country, right behind Iraq as far as what's important to the voters. A week ago on some Sunday morning news a couple of those who were discussing the possible candidates on each side said to not rule out Edwards. He comes from behnid and he may be the best alternative for those Democrats who for a lot of reasons are not sold on Hillary or Obama.

    Tom Vilsack. Don't laugh. He's in the same spot in the polls that Bill Clinton was early in the campaign. Vilsak is no Bill Clinton by any means but again, like Edwards, he is calling for quick withdrawal of the troups in Iraq which separates him from the others. He has the executive experience and he is very well liked by Democrats around the country.

    My dream ticket would be Edwards/Obama or Edwards/Vilsak.

    Hey, way to go Cowards!!! (see link)

    guess another cycle goes by with the majority getting no representation.

    Sunday, February 04, 2007

    Thank You to Jonathan for the invitation to contribute to this page


    I hope to contribute the occassional entertaining piece from my unique perspective. Tell your friends.

    Random Music Shuffle

    Carry On Wayward Son - Kansas
    The Sun is Burning- Simon and Garfunkel
    I am a Rock - Simon and Garfunkel
    Say Goodbye to Hollywood- Billy Joel
    If you could read my Mind- Gordon Lightfoot
    Philadelphia Freedom- Elton John
    Second Hand News- Fleetwood Mac
    Don’t Let it End- STYX
    Hot Hot Hot- Buster Poindexter
    Straw in the Wind- Neil Diamond

    Moron of the Week- Joe Biden

    He of plagiarism fame from his last failed bid for president has stuck his other foot in his mouth.
    How is it possible that a man of singular quality for his stance over the years on equal rights could at the same time compliment an oponent and offend a large part of his constituency (people of color)? The answer has, probably more to do with media whores making something out of nothing, the way they like to do.

    The fact is, that as far as moroninc behavior goes- this is small potatoes. But, if Joe wants to be more than a foot note or future Trivial Pursuit answer he needs to be much more careful about the way he presents himself.

    A Paradox this year with the Academy Awards.

    This year there is an interesting political battle brewing at the Academy Awards.

    No, I am talking about the annual battle over best and orst dressed. I am referring to the global battle for the intellects of all people.

    Two films have been nominated for the prestigious award in the category of 'best documentary':
    "An Inconvenient Truth" and "Jesus Camp". Unlike the other categories, I have actually seen these two films in the same category.

    "An Inconvenient Truth" is a respectable and introspective look at Al Gore as he presents the global warming in the slide show presentation that has taken him around the Globe. He presents the scientific data and he responds credibly to those who would deny the data:
    "Even if man is not the cause, we have the ability to change our lifestyles in such a way that we can make a difference." The film is engaging and actually makes Al Gore look interesting- something millions of dollars and a cadre of advisors couldn't pull off in 2000.

    Jesus Camp gives a balanced presentation of Evangelical Christians who participate in a summer camp for children that principally focusses on developing young Christians (Born Again). There are many reasons to watch this film most of which revolve around what has happened to these people since the film was made.

    I would hope that people are informed enough to know what happens to Rev. Ted Haggard who, in the film, makes an odd comment about the youth and beauty of one of the young camp participants. The other is a direct assault on Global Warming. The mother of two homeschooled children says , "That is such a political issue! Can you show me how that position makes no sense?" to which the chld responds, "The temperature has only gone up .6 degrees."
    The Mother tells him how excellent that is and points out that Christians need to constantly point out the 'lies' of science- evolution, global warming and the like.

    The woman who runs the Camp announced recently that she will no longer run "Jesus Camp." The land owners were conerned, she said, over vandalism to their property and interest was not strong enough for her to attempt to relocate.

    The juxtoposition of these films in this category is interesting to me. "An inconvenient Truth" achieved great accolades in getting Al Gore nominated for a Nobel Prize in Science and, in sharp contrast, "Jesus Camp" calls science a lie.

    I doubt that either award ceremony will solve the debate- especially among those for who the scientific laws of our world that are clearly visible do not provide credible evidence. But, an afternoon of watching these two films will provide an entertaining- if not a little depressing- afternoon.